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blocking up an Eagle

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I need to block up my daughter's Eagle and remove all 8 wheels. What is the safest way to block up da bird and where to block it up? I've heard of cribbing is good.

Thoughts?
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Re: blocking up an Eagle

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I used 6x6 cribbing but I was on concrete. Blocked in on the rear shackle boxes and the bulkhead right behind front tires

These are screen shots from my project page. Lots of good info there
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Blocking on rear shackle box
Blocking on rear shackle box
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Re: blocking up an Eagle

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Wood blocking works under the frame, but it takes up more room. A heavy screw jack or pin stand is more secure. Another factor is the location of the hydraulic jack to do the lifting. On the front, the best location is the center lift point under the forged cross beam between the suspension arms. In the rear, the manual shows using the frame members at the outside edge just past the rear of the drive wheels, but they advise using a 3/8" X 4" X 4" steel plate to spread the load out. Under the axle works if you are just temporarily taking the wheels off. Wherever you jack or support be mindful that some of the framing tubes can be weakened by internal rust and may deflect or crumple. If that happens, choose a different spot or bigger plates.
Walter
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Re: blocking up an Eagle

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see mine being a 68, with 01 styling doesnt have the forged cross beam
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Re: blocking up an Eagle

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I have not crawled under an 01, so that is a surprise to me, but the Model 10 will have it. Jacking under the center point of that beam is part of the Torsilastic adjustment procedure.
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Re: blocking up an Eagle

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Walter I don’t have a picture of mine right now. Should be able to get a pic soon if you are interested
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Re: blocking up an Eagle

Post by beltguy »

Be a bit careful of wood cribbing. I have had one split on me. That was with my on-board hydraulic jacks and a small piece of steel to spread the load. I suspect I was not paying good attention to how I loaded the wood and was probably using a block that already had a split in it.

I used the on-board jacks to raise the bus and then used very heavy duty jack stands to support the bus. I would take just a bit of pressure off the jacks to make the bus settle on the stands, but then locked the hydraulic system so that BOTH the jacks and the stands were supporting the bus. BTW, my on-board jacks were mounted at the bulkheads mentioned above. They are very robust, unless rusted out.

If you are using individual jacks, I would buy the best jack stands you can and then leave the jack in the support "mode" as a safety.

Using blocks under the tires is safer with an Eagle. Torsilastics don't fail catastrophically like an airbag failure. That said, you should always have a dual support system if possible.

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Re: blocking up an Eagle

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Eagle obsessed wrote:Walter I don’t have a picture of mine right now. Should be able to get a pic soon if you are interested
Yes, I would like to see that difference on an 01. The manuals don't show that area, just the suspension arms and connections.
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Re: blocking up an Eagle

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Awesome replies

Thank you
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Re: blocking up an Eagle

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DoubleEagle wrote:
Eagle obsessed wrote:Walter I don’t have a picture of mine right now. Should be able to get a pic soon if you are interested
Yes, I would like to see that difference on an 01. The manuals don't show that area, just the suspension arms and connections.

Here are a few pictures. Slightly difficult to get a pic of that area lol.
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Looking from rear of drivers side wheel well
Looking from rear of drivers side wheel well
Looking from front of bus
Looking from front of bus
1968 05 Series 60/B500 swap 2019-2021
1971 05 8v71 Spicer 4 speed parts bus
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