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Mason's 1968 model 05

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Re: Mason's 1968 model 05
Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:26 pm


The front engine mount is unique. It was used in IHC class 8 trucks when they sold them with Detroit engines. It was a mount that Newell used for their Detroit applications and it is said to be the best system for that engine. I tried to find the mount when I put my Series 60 in, but could not find one.

I am very jealous about that grinder! For a while I tried to find one, but they were so expensive and I really could not justify the purchase.

I am curious about the pump prime button. That is the first that I have heard of them on a Series 60.

Jim
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Re: Mason's 1968 model 05
Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:43 pm


The button on top of the filter will prime the engine when you push it enough times! We run quite a bit of cat equipment, most cats have a similar button on top of the filter.

As for the grinder, our main Ag shop in town went out of business, so they had a big auction....
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Re: Mason's 1968 model 05
Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:14 pm


In an earlier post you mentioned that the donor bus has a hydraulic fan drive. I assume your Eagle has a belt drive fan.

Over the years, I have heard quite a few negative comments about the hydraulic system but not much negative about the belt system. One issue you may have is the size of hydraulic pump. I assume that the pump supplies both the fan and power steering. If so, you will want to check to see if it sticks out so far that it touches the rear bumper.

I put a hydraulic fan on my charge air cooler (located in the old AC bay). It does the job, but it is pretty messy. The pump that I use is a "two chamber" (not the correct nomenclature) and I had to space the bumper out about a half inch.

Jim
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Re: Mason's 1968 model 05
Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:21 pm


It looks like the prime pump is an aftermarket system. Pretty neat.

The toterhome I built had an IHC DT466 and it had a primer pump built into the injector pump. Took a million pumps to prime, but it worked.

Jim
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Re: Mason's 1968 model 05
Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:33 pm


Yes, the pump supply's both.
I have not yet decided if I will use the hydraulic fan or not...
Kind of am voting for a belt drive, the hydraulic drive has lots of fussy components :?

beltguy wrote:In an earlier post you mentioned that the donor bus has a hydraulic fan drive. I assume your Eagle has a belt drive fan.

Over the years, I have heard quite a few negative comments about the hydraulic system but not much negative about the belt system. One issue you may have is the size of hydraulic pump. I assume that the pump supplies both the fan and power steering. If so, you will want to check to see if it sticks out so far that it touches the rear bumper.

I put a hydraulic fan on my charge air cooler (located in the old AC bay). It does the job, but it is pretty messy. The pump that I use is a "two chamber" (not the correct nomenclature) and I had to space the bumper out about a half inch.

Jim


I will have to have a custom drive shaft anyway, we will see what happens on the length :|

The worst by far so far has been the b500, these hydraulic lines are huge! and hard to handle, not to mention all the at fluid on me and the floor...

P.S. updated my signature! Hehehe :D :D
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Re: Mason's 1968 model 05
Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:48 am


Some pics of progress...
Almost ready to come out!! :D :D
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Everything unhooked? (I think!?)
Except the driveshaft...
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Dash area
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Re: Mason's 1968 model 05
Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:56 am


Well here she is!

I little longer then the old one, I might say :shock: :shock:
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Re: Mason's 1968 model 05
Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:27 am


Mason, you sure have a lot of fabricating ahead of you, but then, you have already done quite a bit on the frame. On my 94 Model 15 there is a substantial sub-frame that runs under the frame rails to reinforce the whole area. It is considerably beefier than the stock Model 05 framework. It might have been a general increase in strength regardless of which engine, but it might have been because of the extra weight of the Series 60 and/or greater tow hitch capacity. I suspect you already have a plan worked out, given what you have done already.
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1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
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Re: Mason's 1968 model 05
Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:29 am


Walter, I would love to see some pictures of your new! series 60 in your eagle.... :D :D Is it a factory install? I did not think you could get the HT741 on the series 60 from eagle. But once again, i may be wrong.. :oops:
I may start some fabrication on the rear end this week, depending on how soon I can get the wiring harness out of the old bus... :?
The front has been the worst, they (bluebird) managed to fish these huge connectors through the smallest holes :evil: Grrrrrrr..
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Re: Mason's 1968 model 05
Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:35 am


Eagle obsessed wrote:Yes, the pump supply's both.

beltguy wrote:In an earlier post you mentioned that the donor bus has a hydraulic fan drive. I assume your Eagle has a belt drive fan.

Over the years, I have heard quite a few negative comments about the hydraulic system but not much negative about the belt system. One issue you may have is the size of hydraulic pump. I assume that the pump supplies both the fan and power steering. If so, you will want to check to see if it sticks out so far that it touches the rear bumper.

I put a hydraulic fan on my charge air cooler (located in the old AC bay). It does the job, but it is pretty messy. The pump that I use is a "two chamber" (not the correct nomenclature) and I had to space the bumper out about a half inch.

Jim



Wrong! There is another pump mounted on an auxiliary drive on the lower right side of the transmission. (If you were sitting on the tranny looking at the driveshaft it would be on the right side) You can see it in the last set of pictures i posted. This should make it easier to get rid of the hydraulic drive fan. Speaking of which, the engineering team has officially decided to install a belt drive fan, but still deciding on a fan clutch or not... may have to take a trip to the junk yard... ;)
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