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Anyone familiar with this rig?
Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:35 pm


https://www.rvt.com/Eagle-Bus-Silver-Ea ... ad+Ad+Link

Just contacted the seller on this one. Anyone familiar with this bus personally? Also the listing has 1,000,000+ miles listed as actual miles, I know these things can run for a great distance but at what point is it past its point of no return? Engine has somewhat recently been rebuilt and looks clean in pic (I know this could be old photo, but at first glance looks promising). Any help would be appreciated.

Update: looks like he has a potential buyer coming in from Ohio to take a look so I may be outta luck. Thanks for the reply Joe!
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Re: Anyone familiar with this rig?
Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:33 am


In my opinion, that is a steal if it will work for you.
It's a 45'er. 6V92 is fine.
Look at the suspension and try her out.
I'd have to change the entertainer interior, but if it will work, that's a great buy!
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Re: Anyone familiar with this rig?
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:44 pm


That looks pretty cool!
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Re: Anyone familiar with this rig?
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:47 pm


https://westslope.craigslist.org/bar/d/ ... 54120.html
Found another bus I am going to try to take a look at later this month. It has a DD series 50 engine with 150k or so on it. I havent seen many Series 50 conversions in my searching over the last year or so (lots of Series 60s). Anyone ever done one or driven one? Wonder if it will be underpowered or hard to find parts for. Anyone know this rig personally and can give me a good review on it? Any help would be great!
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Re: Anyone familiar with this rig?
Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:06 am


Joe, that is a good looking bus.

One of our club members did a series 50 swap and was very pleased with it.

Sadly the ad really does not have much info. The focus seems to be trading for real estate. My guess is that the price is pretty negotiable.

I really don't know much about Series 50, but the only complaint seems to be the rough idle. They do have balance counter shafts that need to be replaced after a lot of miles.

Perhaps the more important question might be what transmission it has in it. Series 50/60 engines like to run in the 1400 to 1600 range. If it has a world transmission, all is good. If it has an HT 740 and a 3.70 rear gear ratio (fairly common) the engine would be running in the 2,000 range at 70 MPH.

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Re: Anyone familiar with this rig?
Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:24 am


OkieJoe wrote:https://westslope.craigslist.org/bar/d/silver-eagle-bus/6670754120.html
Found another bus I am going to try to take a look at later this month. It has a DD series 50 engine with 150k or so on it. I havent seen many Series 50 conversions in my searching over the last year or so (lots of Series 60s). Anyone ever done one or driven one? Wonder if it will be underpowered or hard to find parts for. Anyone know this rig personally and can give me a good review on it? Any help would be great!


This particular bus might be okay, but it sold twice on eBay in the last year, and both times the buyers backed out. It is located in Colorado, and the winning bids were in the thirty something thousand dollar range. Inspect carefully, and make any offers realistic. The 45' from Texas with the Series 60 engine has been discussed on the BCM forum extensively, and that Pop RV outfit has a negative one feedback rating on eBay. The interior is not done at a quality level, it only has a 8K generator, and two rooftop A/C's. It is way overpriced. Keep looking.
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:53 pm


The blue rig in Colorado has sold on ebay 2 times in the last year? I found another link to it https://www.rvonline.com/single-ad.asp?Recnumber=68542 that states it has the 6 speed world allison transmission so that is a plus for me based on the RPM info Jim mentioned. From the photos it seemed like a pretty well built interior, the exterior seems to be in decent shape and ride height looks ok. My concern is only 2 rooftop AC and only 8KW generator. Does anyone in the forum know why the buyers backed out of it on ebay if it was the blue rig you were speaking of? Thanks for the quick responses and all the info you provided.
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:30 pm


The second link is interesting and encouraging.

Two roof airs will generally cool a parked 40 foot Eagle if it has good insulation and decent windows/window coverings. Obviously 3 is better. Adding a third unit is quite a bit of work when the ceiling is finished, but doable. However the issue is sufficient cooling when driving. Installation of a strong dash air can take care of that. We have a good dash air and when we close off the back half of the bus we feel comfortable (without running the generator/roof airs) and our bus is not well insulated.

The 8 KW is not a show stopper. For one, a 10 or 12 kw will probably fit in the same area if you need to upgrade and the 8 KW will probably have a decent resale value.

Certainly worth looking at.

Jim
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Re: Anyone familiar with this rig?
Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:49 pm


I looked at the second link and it looks like they mounted a second alternator in the location where an AC compressor was mounted.

A second alternator is great if one powers the chassis battery set and one powers the house battery set. By far it is best to keep the two systems separate.

Adding an AC compressor for a dash air system should not be a big deal as the series 50/60 have a lot of mounting bracket options/front cover bosses. Running AC hoses and the condenser are not a huge deal. The biggest challenge would be the selection of an evaporator that has sufficient capacity and can be incorporated in the dash area. We are thrilled with our Red Dot unit that has large AC and heating capacity.

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Re: Anyone familiar with this rig?
Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:04 pm


OkieJoe wrote:The blue rig in Colorado has sold on ebay 2 times in the last year? I found another link to it https://www.rvonline.com/single-ad.asp?Recnumber=68542 that states it has the 6 speed world allison transmission so that is a plus for me based on the RPM info Jim mentioned. From the photos it seemed like a pretty well built interior, the exterior seems to be in decent shape and ride height looks ok. My concern is only 2 rooftop AC and only 8KW generator. Does anyone in the forum know why the buyers backed out of it on ebay if it was the blue rig you were speaking of? Thanks for the quick responses and all the info you provided.


I don't remember what the one in Colorado had for a generator and A/C, but the 45' in Texas has the 8K and 2 A/C's. The Colorado one was a coach that I followed through two auctions because I wanted to see how it did. On the third attempt it apparently did not meet the reserve, and did not sell. He has been trying to sell it for a year, at least. I just tried the rvonline.com site, and nothing came up. If it is tied to Pop RV, it is a flaky outfit, in my opinion. They scan the web for ads, and then try to sell it for the owner at a jacked up price. They know nothing about converted coaches, and only have pictures of the inside and outside, but not the engine, and no mechanical details. I do not recommend going through a dealer or broker, it only increases the asking price. Deal directly with an owner that knows about the coach. If they cannot tell you about it in detail or provide copies of bills for work done, go elsewhere. ;)
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